Saturday, July 19, 2014

Rondo to Sacramento is Real?


KHTK in Sacramento, apparently a CBS (radio) affiliate, is apparently tweeting that Sacramento is deep in talks with the Celtics and Detroit, and that offers are on the table, and that the two deals are dependent on each other.

Was told by a lower management Kings official, talks regarding Pistons F Josh Smith are on hold as of now, due to SAC/BOS Rondo negotiations

Was told reasoning behind slow process, due to Kings wanting both Rondo & Smith. Unlikely one comes without the other.Kings torn on Mclemore

Am being told Kings staying put with both offers. SAC offering G Ben McLemore, 1st round pick, & Jason Terry to BOS for G Rajon Rondo.
Kings also staying put with offer to Pistons. SAC would send F Jason Thompson , PG Ray McCallum to DET for F Josh Smith.
https://twitter.com/KHTK1140Callers

I don't know how legit these reports are, twitter being what it is, and rumors being what they are, but it sounds legit to me.  I think that this is the deal that needs to happen, one that will help everyone.  I think Sacramento needs to figure out a way to sweeten its offers a little, but Danny also has to get real about the leverage he no longer has.  Other teams know that going into the season with both Rondo and Smart will be a mess, one way or another.  Danny has to make a move.  This sounds like the move to make.  Rondo has to get real too, I think.  He has to recognize that he is not now, and possibly never was, part of Danny's plan.  He has to recognize that, while everyone wants to go to a major market, the most important thing is to be on a team that wants you, playing with people you want to play with.  As Durant has proven, being in a major market isn't everything.  Ditto Lebron.


I wanted Rondo to be a Celtics legend and I thought he could be one of the greatest.  I think the shabby treatment of Rondo, as I see it,  by Ainge has been a big mistake by Ainge.  But now it really is time for both sides to move on.  Hopefully Rondo can begin to build a new legend in Sacramento.  Hopefully Smart can do the same in Boston.

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Apparently the Detroit Free Press (via Pro Basketball Talk) says there is no there there...

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/19/report-no-legs-to-trade-talks-between-pistons-and-kings-involving-josh-smith/

Sacramento was looking to send nothing of value in return for Smith, which almost seems fair when considering he’s guaranteed $40.5 million over the next three seasons.
But there’s a new regime in Detroit with Stan Van Gundy acting as head coach and president of basketball operations, and he obviously wants to see if he can properly utilize Smith’s talents before shipping him out in exchange for nothing more than financial flexibility.

My guess is that there are legs to the story, but that the Kings will have to sweeten both offers.

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The latest from KHTK is that Detroit has agreed to a deal and that everything hinges on Ainge now.    I don't know how valid the report is, but if it is on the money, I hope Danny stops dithering and gets down to making a deal.  It's time for everyone to have a chance to move on.

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No progress on the Rondo side, it seems, according to KHTK (assuming it is/has a real source):

 As far as Rondo, that's the trade I'm told is most likely not to happen, but per source, the Kings will NOT make one trade w/o other.
Perhaps Danny is still hoping that Rondo will turn it on as the Celtics leader, though it seems more likely to me that he's continuing to hope that he can bet a 'big haul' for Rondo.

16 comments:

  1. Do the right thing, Danny. Make this trade happen. Make a deal that gives Rondo a chance to go on with his career. Don't drag this out.

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    1. Yes Danny make another assinine deal. Get another #1 pick. When will the Celt's send this buffoon Back to Utah? He was a lousy player and he's just as bad as a G.M.

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    2. I think Danny could maybe be a good gm if he would set aside his crazy idea that disloyalty is a good principle for sports. But right now, he's pretty much backed himself into a corner, as I see it. He's gonna have to trade Rondo for more 'assets' and cap relief. Rondo could have been a Celtics legend. Now it may be that he will be a Celtics legend the way that Babe Ruth is a Red Sox legend...

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  2. Another tweet from someone or other denies that Sacramento has even talked to the Celtics about Rondo, so who knows...

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  3. Kings have nothing to sweeten the deals with. Don't want Terry. Kings are not trading Gay or Cousins (and Celtics probably don't want those contracts anyway) The first #1 they have to deal is 2017. Stauskas is an interesting piece... I would take him as sweetener. I guess Celtics could always get another trade exception. back? If I am Boston, I would want Williams expiring, McLemore, Stauskas and their 2017 1st round pick.

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    1. I don't know what the possibilities are. I know that Sacramento doesn't have a lot to offer, but too, Danny doesn't have much leverage. I wonder if Sac could find a way to take on Wallace's contract, maybe by stretching out Gay's contract? Some creative thinking has to happen to pull this deal through, but I think they should find a way.

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    2. No way Sac is going to give up THAT much to have Rondo for potentially only 1 year. That would just be stupid.

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    3. Forget the 1st round pick if Nick Stauskas is dealt to Boston with Ben McLemore for Rondo.

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    4. That would be almost like three first rounders, right?

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    5. But I think Sacramento is hoping that Rondo will resign given the lengths that the team has gone to for him - something that hasn't happened in Boston.

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  4. Get serious, lol R.R. isn't going anywhere UN less the Celtics will improve significantly

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    1. Well, I think you are right because Danny is going to play the role of delusional Dog in the Manger. He'll drag this out as long as he can. But he shouldn't.

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  5. Shaq owns the kings, or part owner. He loves Rondo, wouldn't be shocked if he's pushing a Rondo deal.

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    1. I think that's part of it too Greg, and I think he's probably talked to Cousins about how important it could be to work with a point guard who really WANTS to get the ball to the big man in position to score.

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  6. Nothing new. Was all the 'info' from KHTK a stunt? Has Danny decided to keep Rondo tied up in his basement?
    Is Rondo pulling a 'melo' and refusing to go to a small market? Stop dragging things out, Danny, and Rondo, consider first the kind of basketball you want to play. That's more important than all the other ancillary crap. Think of the game itself.

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  7. I see a report that Smith has been told that he's going nowhere - maybe it's Monroe that is leaving Detroit? Meanwhile Boston signs Turner? My head is kind of spinning at this point.

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